You can also find this episode wherever you listen to podcasts — just search for Calmversations with Benjamin Boyce — but, if you go the audio-only route, you’ll miss out on all the face work Benjamin does, which would be a pity: And I don’t stint on facial expressions either, if that’s what you’re here for:
WPATH was formerly the Harry Benjamin something something, and there were more doctors participating, including Dr. Stephen B. Levine, who has changed his position on "affirmation" after several of his "diagnosed trans" patients detransitioned and one killed himself 7 years after the surgeries.
I propose a "first steps" involving somatic mind/body work along with psychotherapy for deep understanding of childhood abuse/trauma/influences/sexism. The "sexologist" researchers jumped quickly into the life-altering surgeries as cures based on their own biases and the eagerness of the surgeons to try all the new bells and whistles in the 1980s-90s. Pride awareness was part of the trend.
For mind/body concepts from Ute Heggen, former professional dancer, ex-wife of a man who says he's a woman and mother of Ute's children, visit Ute Heggen youtube channel. I also touch on the experience of watching my then husband go down that rabbit hole, how I came to write the memoir, In the Curated Woods, True Tales from a Grass Widow. Thanks Eliza, for this crucial research!
I think Benjamin had a great point when he tried pressing you on how you process this sort of information and knowledge - I hope you are talking to a therapist yourself as all mental health workers are encouraged to do or else this could take a terrible toll upon you!
Nov 7, 2022·edited Nov 7, 2022Liked by Eliza Mondegreen
I very much enjoyed that conversation.
I like Boyce's channel, but was a bit put off by his feeling that evil-doers (of any sort, I suppose, but he was specifically talking about pushers of gender-woo) will be punished in an afterlife of some sort. Since I watched his "What I believe" video, I wondered how much his strong religious beliefs (tho' non-doctrinal as he claims) influence his beliefs in the gender realm, and to what extent.
Not saying his stuff isn't valid because of that, but it concerns me somewhat.
Elizabeth, listening to your conversation with Mr Boyce about WPATH and its pernicious ideology and actions, brings to mind another woman, the actress Leah Remini and her battle/struggle with Scientology. You and she have a lot in common.
That was an amazing interview as well as exchange. We need so much more of such discourse!!!
WPATH was formerly the Harry Benjamin something something, and there were more doctors participating, including Dr. Stephen B. Levine, who has changed his position on "affirmation" after several of his "diagnosed trans" patients detransitioned and one killed himself 7 years after the surgeries.
I propose a "first steps" involving somatic mind/body work along with psychotherapy for deep understanding of childhood abuse/trauma/influences/sexism. The "sexologist" researchers jumped quickly into the life-altering surgeries as cures based on their own biases and the eagerness of the surgeons to try all the new bells and whistles in the 1980s-90s. Pride awareness was part of the trend.
For mind/body concepts from Ute Heggen, former professional dancer, ex-wife of a man who says he's a woman and mother of Ute's children, visit Ute Heggen youtube channel. I also touch on the experience of watching my then husband go down that rabbit hole, how I came to write the memoir, In the Curated Woods, True Tales from a Grass Widow. Thanks Eliza, for this crucial research!
Great interview and thank you for your candour.
I think Benjamin had a great point when he tried pressing you on how you process this sort of information and knowledge - I hope you are talking to a therapist yourself as all mental health workers are encouraged to do or else this could take a terrible toll upon you!
Really enjoyed this thoughtful talk. It’s so good to hear that you’re not the only person saying to yourself ‘wait... what?!’
It was excellent. Thank you
I very much enjoyed that conversation.
I like Boyce's channel, but was a bit put off by his feeling that evil-doers (of any sort, I suppose, but he was specifically talking about pushers of gender-woo) will be punished in an afterlife of some sort. Since I watched his "What I believe" video, I wondered how much his strong religious beliefs (tho' non-doctrinal as he claims) influence his beliefs in the gender realm, and to what extent.
Not saying his stuff isn't valid because of that, but it concerns me somewhat.
Thank you for that. It was clearly pretty stressful being in the lion's den. Hope you can take some time to unwind after it all.
Elizabeth, listening to your conversation with Mr Boyce about WPATH and its pernicious ideology and actions, brings to mind another woman, the actress Leah Remini and her battle/struggle with Scientology. You and she have a lot in common.
Here's the youtube video with the typical scenario for the wife at Ute Heggen YT channel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24d56qtFYiM