I like Boyce's channel, but was a bit put off by his feeling that evil-doers (of any sort, I suppose, but he was specifically talking about pushers of gender-woo) will be punished in an afterlife of some sort. Since I watched his "What I believe" video, I wondered how much his strong religious belie…
I like Boyce's channel, but was a bit put off by his feeling that evil-doers (of any sort, I suppose, but he was specifically talking about pushers of gender-woo) will be punished in an afterlife of some sort. Since I watched his "What I believe" video, I wondered how much his strong religious beliefs (tho' non-doctrinal as he claims) influence his beliefs in the gender realm, and to what extent.
Not saying his stuff isn't valid because of that, but it concerns me somewhat.
I think people come to this issue from a lot of different places. His starting point isn't mine, that's for sure. But he's a good interviewer and he's done a lot to give detransitioners a voice in particular and I think that's valuable even if we disagree on some fundamentals.
Of course; and that point was discussed in the video (aligning with people and groups who might differ in all ways except this one issue), so I get it. And I generally don't reject anybody out of hand based on how they arrived at their viewpoints, but try to just be conscious of all things contributing to a discussion - each person's viewpoint, the subtleties of their arguments, their backgrounds, and other bits of context that can inform me of the whole picture. It's why I'm of a gender-critical mindset, I think (because I take it all in and think "What makes sense here? What is fair?"); also why I can have (or try to have) reasonable conversations with virulent racists - I take a "where is this person coming from?" attitude.
That said, I still do wonder if coming at this from a religiously philosophical place alters certain specific aspects of their approach, and in what way. But I reserve judgment until I see something obviously "bad" happening.
I very much enjoyed that conversation.
I like Boyce's channel, but was a bit put off by his feeling that evil-doers (of any sort, I suppose, but he was specifically talking about pushers of gender-woo) will be punished in an afterlife of some sort. Since I watched his "What I believe" video, I wondered how much his strong religious beliefs (tho' non-doctrinal as he claims) influence his beliefs in the gender realm, and to what extent.
Not saying his stuff isn't valid because of that, but it concerns me somewhat.
I think people come to this issue from a lot of different places. His starting point isn't mine, that's for sure. But he's a good interviewer and he's done a lot to give detransitioners a voice in particular and I think that's valuable even if we disagree on some fundamentals.
Of course; and that point was discussed in the video (aligning with people and groups who might differ in all ways except this one issue), so I get it. And I generally don't reject anybody out of hand based on how they arrived at their viewpoints, but try to just be conscious of all things contributing to a discussion - each person's viewpoint, the subtleties of their arguments, their backgrounds, and other bits of context that can inform me of the whole picture. It's why I'm of a gender-critical mindset, I think (because I take it all in and think "What makes sense here? What is fair?"); also why I can have (or try to have) reasonable conversations with virulent racists - I take a "where is this person coming from?" attitude.
That said, I still do wonder if coming at this from a religiously philosophical place alters certain specific aspects of their approach, and in what way. But I reserve judgment until I see something obviously "bad" happening.
Keep on going with your great work!