Until the trans craziness hit, I viewed Democrats as more right and more wise on every single issue. Not any more. If nothing else, trans activists have shown me how illogical well-meaning liberals can be. My thoughts still go back to the emails I exchanged (about two years ago) with a liberal poetry editor (I am a poet) who was trying t…
Until the trans craziness hit, I viewed Democrats as more right and more wise on every single issue. Not any more. If nothing else, trans activists have shown me how illogical well-meaning liberals can be. My thoughts still go back to the emails I exchanged (about two years ago) with a liberal poetry editor (I am a poet) who was trying to convince me of the existential torture of being three years old and believing that you were born in the wrong body -- as if he knew! Liberals have allowed themselves to be extraordinarily gullible.
Thank you Hortense and Perry for your comments! As a very liberal Democrat who lives in a city in a state that is so “blue” that I feel like I live in the sky 🤪!, I really “feel” you on this. “Icky” is such a perfect word to describe the weird rites and rituals of people trying to think that they can fundamentally change sex. I feel so alone in my critique and I know that I can never go back to thinking that a human being can be “born in the wrong body”. Yes, I used to thing that. I am so disturbed by the attempts to erase women’s spaces and even the word woman! --- “pregnant people”!!!!!! no, no, no.... I am even more disturbed by public schools attempting to teach trans ideology to children, and the idea of messing with children’s (and young people’s-- I shudder to think of 20 year old me [eons ago!] making irreversible decisions about anything!) bodies fills me with incomprehensible despair. Why would anyone, especially someone who calls herself/himself a doctor, advocate for these practices?
I agree with you, Ruby. My very blue state -- Rhode Island -- is not really as blue as it appears. It has a strong blue-collar population, but those blue-collar workers understand that the Democrats provide better government services than Republicans do, and so many of them vote Democratic -- though certainly not all of them. To the best of my knowledge, there are no drag queens reading stories to kids in Rhode Island.
I agree with you about professionals. No teacher should EVER tell his or her students that they are free to choose their gender. I know there are teachers who are doing that, and it is a total lie. Too many professionals are liberals, and they don't seem to be aware about the harm that trans people are doing to kids. "You are trans? How exciting! How wonderful! You can be anything you want to be!" (Puke.) If I were a school principle, I would be talking to all the teachers about it. "It is not up to you to talk to kids about their sexuality."
The efforts of trans people to make women invisible will not work or last. A few institutions have picked up on the "pregnant people" lingo, but it will fade. Everyone knows that only a woman gets pregnant. If you ever have a professional talking to you about "pregnant people", just look them in the eye and say, "Women! Not 'people' !"
Thank you Perry. I appreciate hearing your take on Rhode Island’s “blueness”. It’s different where I live and it is probably its own blue bubble. I just think that a lot of people who support the idea of trans do not really go too deep in their thinking. I am fairly certain that was what I did when I mouthed platitudes like, “maybe he was born in the wrong body”! I was trying to understand, and I was trying to fit in and I was also trying to summon up compassion. I started to educate myself because there was this tiny little voice inside that did NOT understand, and as I proceeded to learn more, my belief structure crumbled. I hope that those Democratic Rhode Islanders you mentioned can nudge the Democratic Party in a saner direction. Many of the Democratic movers and shakers in CA (my blue bubble) are really into using the transgender train as a means to signal that they are not Republican. Some of the stuff they are coming up with is truly ludicrous/scary [take your pick]-- CA as a sanctuary state for “trans” kids, etc...
Yes, I know that the trans community has done a good job brain-washing the people of California. I understand that Newsom is also brain-washed. Sadly, Biden is brain-washed too, as he supports everything trans no matter whether it is good or bad. I just don't understand why people aren't able to distinguish good from bad in social movements. Protecting trans people in housing and employment (that's good); allowing trans people to redefine what gender is for the whole human race, influence children, displace women in women's private spaces, and shame people who disagree with them out of their jobs (THAT'S BAD). Is that so difficult?
Yup, yup, yup - I agree with you here , especially:
“ I just don't understand why people aren't able to distinguish good from bad in social movements.”
It seems like it’s an all or nothing deal? Inability to see the “gray”? (But when you think about it, nothing too “gray”’or in between about people getting surgical interventions or cross-sex hormones.) Maybe that’s it? and perhaps there is a name for this in psychology or philosophy? --- Something so difficult to envision as prosaic or typical or normal (I could be skewered for using normal like this where I live 🥹)--- something out of the ordinary for most people--- in order for people to embrace the humanity of someone or a practice that is difficult to understand, maybe we need to accept the whole big idea of it ( Exulansic talks about trans as religion) and so we pretend to make sense of something that does not make sense. And maybe in our wanting to ensure that all people have the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness we become easily manipulated to accept as true someone else’s truth, as if we have to all believe in the same deity in order to belong?
Sorry for the longwindedness!!! Trying to understand “my people”, which means all human beings in all our messiness.
Anyway, thanks for putting out that clear thought: “I just don't understand why people aren't able to distinguish good from bad in social movements. “
Yes. When I think about the harm that liberal-leaning parents can do to their kids (like the parents of Jazz Jennings) I want to cry. There may be thousands of liberal parents around the U.S. and other Western countries who are HOPING to have a trans child so they can have a "special" project to keep them busy.
Jazz's parents don't seem so liberal to me. They were basically transing the gay away- like Susie Green and her husband, Jazz's parents were less than thrilled with a nonconventional boy. Extra mommie points and attention for that Munchausen's by Proxy goodness.
I understand what you are saying. This is also happening in the Middle East, where they are hardly liberal. There is so much hatred of homosexuality among religious groups that parents would rather have a trans girl than a gay boy. Indeed, the hatred of homosexuality in the world is a sickness unto itself. I'm gay, and it didn't make me a bad person. So Jazz's parent may not have been liberal in the sense of accepting their boy as gay -- but then, it does take a certain amount of liberalism to accept a trans child. Also, Jazz's mother started the campaign to convert her son to a girl when he was only three. She WANTED to have a trans child. There's no doubt in my mind that she was looking forward to the challenge of having a "special" child.
'liberals have allowed themselves to be extraordinarily gullible.' So sadly true in so very many ways. In the past few years I have watched most of my long time liberal community lose their collective critical thinking minds and guzzle down the trans gender koolaid, the covid koolaid, etc etc, I am independent because frankly I cannot stomach the fanaticism and hypocrisy of either the dems or reps at this point.
I'm not a scientist, and I know far less about vaccines than medical doctors and researchers do. I got every Covid vaccine that came out, and there is no evidence that I was harmed by any of them. You sound to me like a vaccine denier, and I'm not with you on that. Yes, there are issues involving vaccines, but in my view they do more good than harm. As for all the social harm you talk about, I don't have enough information to agree with you. Staying home was difficult for a lot of people, and many kids fell behind in their schoolwork, but most people survived okay. Now, what they did in China was monstrous; but here in the U.S., most measures recommended by the government were voluntary. In the U.S., one thing I know for sure is that there were more deaths among conservatives who wouldn't get vaccinated than among the liberals who did.
You need to be careful about where you get your information.
You say that you aren't a vax denier or a covid denier, but then you launch into all your arguments again. I lived through the pandemic too. I remember that there were people who were dealing with the public who were required to get vaccines, and that wasn't something I was opposed to. I believe in the efficacy of vaccines. A vaccine isn't a death sentence. My recollection is that not that many people had bad reactions to the vaccines. When you receive a vaccine, they are not ripping your arm off or chopping your head off. If you have a bad reaction to it, you'll recover.
However, I don't know everything about every incident that occurred during the pandemic, and that is why I can't debate the points you raise (beyond making general statements). The pandemic was a difficult situation for everyone, and our elected leaders (except Trump of course) did their best to deal with it.
My participation in this discussion is over. This is a Substack about transgender overreach, and your concerns about alleged government overreach during the pandemic don't belong here. I quickly scanned your last post, and I won't be reading any more of them if they are about the response to the pandemic. Among other things, you are spouting facts which sound like they came from right-wing media. I read the mainstream news all during the pandemic, and I was satisfied that the government was doing as best as it could during a bad situation.
By the way, above you said "in my country alone" -- what country is that? I am in the U.S., and I can't speak to issues that arose in any other country.
Since you were the one who started the covid conversation I guess you feel you have the right to end it. That is fine with me. I have deleted my own previous comments since I happen to agree this is not a good place to discuss this. I was referred to this newsletter and it is my first time here. Obviously it is not as free thinking as the newletter that originally referred me. I think tho you should read the comment in this same newsletter comment section from Dr Theresa Goodall where she points out that only about 20% percent of medical practice is actually scientifically backed. So to think that only the medical transitioning of minors is not scientifically backed seems like gullibility to me. That was my original point and I am sorry that I seemed to have struck such a covid nerve.
No, I didn't start the conversation. You started it when you mentioned "the covid koolaid", and I wanted to know what you meant. In every area of life and work there are good things happening and bad things happening. I am focussed on the trans issue. My issue with you is that you come across as a conspiracy theorist on multiple issues. For example, if you believe that only about 20% of medical practice is based on science, then that gets me thinking that you might be the kook here. My own experience with medicine and science is that it is mostly on the right track, but that there are gaps in our knowledge that will be filled in with time.
Until the trans craziness hit, I viewed Democrats as more right and more wise on every single issue. Not any more. If nothing else, trans activists have shown me how illogical well-meaning liberals can be. My thoughts still go back to the emails I exchanged (about two years ago) with a liberal poetry editor (I am a poet) who was trying to convince me of the existential torture of being three years old and believing that you were born in the wrong body -- as if he knew! Liberals have allowed themselves to be extraordinarily gullible.
Thank you Hortense and Perry for your comments! As a very liberal Democrat who lives in a city in a state that is so “blue” that I feel like I live in the sky 🤪!, I really “feel” you on this. “Icky” is such a perfect word to describe the weird rites and rituals of people trying to think that they can fundamentally change sex. I feel so alone in my critique and I know that I can never go back to thinking that a human being can be “born in the wrong body”. Yes, I used to thing that. I am so disturbed by the attempts to erase women’s spaces and even the word woman! --- “pregnant people”!!!!!! no, no, no.... I am even more disturbed by public schools attempting to teach trans ideology to children, and the idea of messing with children’s (and young people’s-- I shudder to think of 20 year old me [eons ago!] making irreversible decisions about anything!) bodies fills me with incomprehensible despair. Why would anyone, especially someone who calls herself/himself a doctor, advocate for these practices?
I agree with you, Ruby. My very blue state -- Rhode Island -- is not really as blue as it appears. It has a strong blue-collar population, but those blue-collar workers understand that the Democrats provide better government services than Republicans do, and so many of them vote Democratic -- though certainly not all of them. To the best of my knowledge, there are no drag queens reading stories to kids in Rhode Island.
I agree with you about professionals. No teacher should EVER tell his or her students that they are free to choose their gender. I know there are teachers who are doing that, and it is a total lie. Too many professionals are liberals, and they don't seem to be aware about the harm that trans people are doing to kids. "You are trans? How exciting! How wonderful! You can be anything you want to be!" (Puke.) If I were a school principle, I would be talking to all the teachers about it. "It is not up to you to talk to kids about their sexuality."
The efforts of trans people to make women invisible will not work or last. A few institutions have picked up on the "pregnant people" lingo, but it will fade. Everyone knows that only a woman gets pregnant. If you ever have a professional talking to you about "pregnant people", just look them in the eye and say, "Women! Not 'people' !"
Thank you Perry. I appreciate hearing your take on Rhode Island’s “blueness”. It’s different where I live and it is probably its own blue bubble. I just think that a lot of people who support the idea of trans do not really go too deep in their thinking. I am fairly certain that was what I did when I mouthed platitudes like, “maybe he was born in the wrong body”! I was trying to understand, and I was trying to fit in and I was also trying to summon up compassion. I started to educate myself because there was this tiny little voice inside that did NOT understand, and as I proceeded to learn more, my belief structure crumbled. I hope that those Democratic Rhode Islanders you mentioned can nudge the Democratic Party in a saner direction. Many of the Democratic movers and shakers in CA (my blue bubble) are really into using the transgender train as a means to signal that they are not Republican. Some of the stuff they are coming up with is truly ludicrous/scary [take your pick]-- CA as a sanctuary state for “trans” kids, etc...
Yes, I know that the trans community has done a good job brain-washing the people of California. I understand that Newsom is also brain-washed. Sadly, Biden is brain-washed too, as he supports everything trans no matter whether it is good or bad. I just don't understand why people aren't able to distinguish good from bad in social movements. Protecting trans people in housing and employment (that's good); allowing trans people to redefine what gender is for the whole human race, influence children, displace women in women's private spaces, and shame people who disagree with them out of their jobs (THAT'S BAD). Is that so difficult?
Yup, yup, yup - I agree with you here , especially:
“ I just don't understand why people aren't able to distinguish good from bad in social movements.”
It seems like it’s an all or nothing deal? Inability to see the “gray”? (But when you think about it, nothing too “gray”’or in between about people getting surgical interventions or cross-sex hormones.) Maybe that’s it? and perhaps there is a name for this in psychology or philosophy? --- Something so difficult to envision as prosaic or typical or normal (I could be skewered for using normal like this where I live 🥹)--- something out of the ordinary for most people--- in order for people to embrace the humanity of someone or a practice that is difficult to understand, maybe we need to accept the whole big idea of it ( Exulansic talks about trans as religion) and so we pretend to make sense of something that does not make sense. And maybe in our wanting to ensure that all people have the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness we become easily manipulated to accept as true someone else’s truth, as if we have to all believe in the same deity in order to belong?
Sorry for the longwindedness!!! Trying to understand “my people”, which means all human beings in all our messiness.
Anyway, thanks for putting out that clear thought: “I just don't understand why people aren't able to distinguish good from bad in social movements. “
Could not agree more.
Yes. When I think about the harm that liberal-leaning parents can do to their kids (like the parents of Jazz Jennings) I want to cry. There may be thousands of liberal parents around the U.S. and other Western countries who are HOPING to have a trans child so they can have a "special" project to keep them busy.
Jazz's parents don't seem so liberal to me. They were basically transing the gay away- like Susie Green and her husband, Jazz's parents were less than thrilled with a nonconventional boy. Extra mommie points and attention for that Munchausen's by Proxy goodness.
I understand what you are saying. This is also happening in the Middle East, where they are hardly liberal. There is so much hatred of homosexuality among religious groups that parents would rather have a trans girl than a gay boy. Indeed, the hatred of homosexuality in the world is a sickness unto itself. I'm gay, and it didn't make me a bad person. So Jazz's parent may not have been liberal in the sense of accepting their boy as gay -- but then, it does take a certain amount of liberalism to accept a trans child. Also, Jazz's mother started the campaign to convert her son to a girl when he was only three. She WANTED to have a trans child. There's no doubt in my mind that she was looking forward to the challenge of having a "special" child.
Yeah, I think it was more MBP than anything political, TBH.
'liberals have allowed themselves to be extraordinarily gullible.' So sadly true in so very many ways. In the past few years I have watched most of my long time liberal community lose their collective critical thinking minds and guzzle down the trans gender koolaid, the covid koolaid, etc etc, I am independent because frankly I cannot stomach the fanaticism and hypocrisy of either the dems or reps at this point.
Well, I guess I'm one who guzzled the Covid Koolaid. It's pretty obvious to me that we had a pandemic.
I'm not a scientist, and I know far less about vaccines than medical doctors and researchers do. I got every Covid vaccine that came out, and there is no evidence that I was harmed by any of them. You sound to me like a vaccine denier, and I'm not with you on that. Yes, there are issues involving vaccines, but in my view they do more good than harm. As for all the social harm you talk about, I don't have enough information to agree with you. Staying home was difficult for a lot of people, and many kids fell behind in their schoolwork, but most people survived okay. Now, what they did in China was monstrous; but here in the U.S., most measures recommended by the government were voluntary. In the U.S., one thing I know for sure is that there were more deaths among conservatives who wouldn't get vaccinated than among the liberals who did.
You need to be careful about where you get your information.
You say that you aren't a vax denier or a covid denier, but then you launch into all your arguments again. I lived through the pandemic too. I remember that there were people who were dealing with the public who were required to get vaccines, and that wasn't something I was opposed to. I believe in the efficacy of vaccines. A vaccine isn't a death sentence. My recollection is that not that many people had bad reactions to the vaccines. When you receive a vaccine, they are not ripping your arm off or chopping your head off. If you have a bad reaction to it, you'll recover.
However, I don't know everything about every incident that occurred during the pandemic, and that is why I can't debate the points you raise (beyond making general statements). The pandemic was a difficult situation for everyone, and our elected leaders (except Trump of course) did their best to deal with it.
My participation in this discussion is over. This is a Substack about transgender overreach, and your concerns about alleged government overreach during the pandemic don't belong here. I quickly scanned your last post, and I won't be reading any more of them if they are about the response to the pandemic. Among other things, you are spouting facts which sound like they came from right-wing media. I read the mainstream news all during the pandemic, and I was satisfied that the government was doing as best as it could during a bad situation.
By the way, above you said "in my country alone" -- what country is that? I am in the U.S., and I can't speak to issues that arose in any other country.
Since you were the one who started the covid conversation I guess you feel you have the right to end it. That is fine with me. I have deleted my own previous comments since I happen to agree this is not a good place to discuss this. I was referred to this newsletter and it is my first time here. Obviously it is not as free thinking as the newletter that originally referred me. I think tho you should read the comment in this same newsletter comment section from Dr Theresa Goodall where she points out that only about 20% percent of medical practice is actually scientifically backed. So to think that only the medical transitioning of minors is not scientifically backed seems like gullibility to me. That was my original point and I am sorry that I seemed to have struck such a covid nerve.
No, I didn't start the conversation. You started it when you mentioned "the covid koolaid", and I wanted to know what you meant. In every area of life and work there are good things happening and bad things happening. I am focussed on the trans issue. My issue with you is that you come across as a conspiracy theorist on multiple issues. For example, if you believe that only about 20% of medical practice is based on science, then that gets me thinking that you might be the kook here. My own experience with medicine and science is that it is mostly on the right track, but that there are gaps in our knowledge that will be filled in with time.
(You didn't need to delete your comments.)