Lisa Marchiano, Benjamin Boyce, and I talk about what’s going on with girls, rites of passage, symbolic symptoms, toxic Internet subcultures, daring new ideas about identity, and more—
Unfortunately I can't make the book club (again) due to being forced into the workplace by feminists. Just kidding - but I am loving Feminism Against Progress and hope you will make a post with your thoughts!
Does anyone else remember hearing that girls/women who went through early puberty were more likely to develop gender dysphoria? I keep thinking about this, and was reminded when Eliza and Lisa were talking about how jarring it is to go from being treated as a sexless child to a sexualized woman overnight.
Juxtapose that “overnight” experience with a pandemic lockdown where girls were essentially cut off from peers in person; where they might have seen other girls dealing with the same situation. No wonder they’re trying to flee womanhood.
What a wonderful, rich conversation. Just as Lisa is describing her brand of exploratory therapy - "that sounds important," let's dig into that - Eliza ties it so well to gender questioning girls. Girls and families that can find that therapeutic approach are very fortunate indeed. I've also been thinking about the relationship between gender-questioning teen girl and peri/menopausal mom. Quite the combo.
One of the richest conversations I've listened to in awhile. One thing that struck me was the creativity with which women and girls deal with life -- even social contagions can be viewed as girls finding a way to express something about their experience in a world that might not otherwise listen to them. Maybe something "unspeakable". I have many more thoughts but am about to drift off to sleep. Hope to hear more from Eliza and Lisa.
I read Spinning Straw into Gold many years ago. I remember thinking the book is not what I expected (I was looking for a more scholarly analysis of fairy tales) but I still enjoyed it immensely. I’ve requested the book from my public library; looking forward to my re-read.
Yeah, I found that part of Hags really sad, too. I had always had some older female friends (e.g., was very close to my boss from my first job, who was my mom's age) but nothing like what I have now. And I don't know how I would have found it anywhere other than this very strange rag-tag movement.
Unfortunately I can't make the book club (again) due to being forced into the workplace by feminists. Just kidding - but I am loving Feminism Against Progress and hope you will make a post with your thoughts!
thank you for the funny comment, though. Sorry to miss you.
Does anyone else remember hearing that girls/women who went through early puberty were more likely to develop gender dysphoria? I keep thinking about this, and was reminded when Eliza and Lisa were talking about how jarring it is to go from being treated as a sexless child to a sexualized woman overnight.
Juxtapose that “overnight” experience with a pandemic lockdown where girls were essentially cut off from peers in person; where they might have seen other girls dealing with the same situation. No wonder they’re trying to flee womanhood.
What a wonderful, rich conversation. Just as Lisa is describing her brand of exploratory therapy - "that sounds important," let's dig into that - Eliza ties it so well to gender questioning girls. Girls and families that can find that therapeutic approach are very fortunate indeed. I've also been thinking about the relationship between gender-questioning teen girl and peri/menopausal mom. Quite the combo.
One of the richest conversations I've listened to in awhile. One thing that struck me was the creativity with which women and girls deal with life -- even social contagions can be viewed as girls finding a way to express something about their experience in a world that might not otherwise listen to them. Maybe something "unspeakable". I have many more thoughts but am about to drift off to sleep. Hope to hear more from Eliza and Lisa.
I really enjoyed listening to this podcast! It touched on so much... I’m going to watch it on YouTube...
I could relate to all three of you in varying degrees.
Loved it!
I read Spinning Straw into Gold many years ago. I remember thinking the book is not what I expected (I was looking for a more scholarly analysis of fairy tales) but I still enjoyed it immensely. I’ve requested the book from my public library; looking forward to my re-read.
Here's a link to the Black South African dude at RealityCheckSA, with his take on bodily integrity, his sceptic take on Western "trans" ideology:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrKzvv59pOY
Yeah, I found that part of Hags really sad, too. I had always had some older female friends (e.g., was very close to my boss from my first job, who was my mom's age) but nothing like what I have now. And I don't know how I would have found it anywhere other than this very strange rag-tag movement.
Yeah, we for sure will, though I might pull really hard for us to do Hadley Freeman's Good Girls next... are you coming for Mary Harrington Monday?