I was waiting for someone to comment on this! Absolutely insane how this guy was able to induce rapid onset gender dysphoria so easily in these girls (and women). He wasn’t even a gender activist or LGBTQ idealogue st alll, this was purely a cold business move by him and his wife to pivot when they weren’t delivering what they promised. The craziest part is that I don’t think the people making the documentary even considered the implications of what they were showing here. When they showed the clips to the “gender expert” they brought in for commentary (a professor of gender at CUNY, who was a straight white guy), you can see the mental gymnastics unfolding behind his eyes. He had to quickly think of how he can discredit the “transness”’of these girls without admitting that ROGD is a real problem. Very bizarre stuff all around.
Uh I’m aware he’s an “authority” on the subject, he just couldn’t square the fact that the way young women were being pressured to transition in this cult is basically identical to how it happens to many young women in recent years. These were text books cases of rapid onset gender dysphoria. Which unless he’s a complete outlier in his academic gender studies department, he would probably label as a transphobic myth.
Even though Netflix had to cover its a$$ with the disclaimer, I’m hoping that any cult awareness documentary will help the casual viewer see examples of Coercive Consent. This is not the consent culture that people assume is the liberated sex positive kind, and abusers have hidden behind for decades.
The stronger example from the culty group is the whistleblowers, the two women, one of whom was also pressured to transition and said NO. Even though both of their sources of income were from selling courses in the Twin Flames.
The biggest victim in the entire doc, in my opinion, was clearly the 18 year old girl who went to live with an insane person in Utah. I understand people get manipulated into things, but I found it hard to empathize with an older sister who was 100% on board with sending her younger sister across the country to live with a stranger who was 10 years older, and before she even moved out there was already in trouble with the police.
I don’t understand where the parents were! She said that she was living with them at the time of filming, so they’re obviously present in her life. How can they let their 18 year old daughter move out there? It was wild to me that a lot of these girls came from seemingly loving homes and still got sucked into this nonsense- virtually as well!
I started watching this and couldn't stop! I was aware of this cult already as there's also a good podcast series on it. Eliza, you've perfectly articulated my discomfort with the documentary. Their defence of transgenderism and obvious surface level understanding of what is happening in online trans communities was so disappointing. Is Cassius Adair a female? She/he has that jockey voice so common to TIFs
More proof that this topic is in fact multifaceted in its breadth and reach, and we can't keep just having those sold on it be the ones telling the rest of society how to think and act in regard to it.
Twin Flames - well, there's another thing that went whoosh over my head. The world has, in fact, gone totally mad (but it probably always was). Isn't "authentic self" to mean something you're not just the deepest bit of doublethink in the trans wooniverse?
I was waiting for someone to comment on this! Absolutely insane how this guy was able to induce rapid onset gender dysphoria so easily in these girls (and women). He wasn’t even a gender activist or LGBTQ idealogue st alll, this was purely a cold business move by him and his wife to pivot when they weren’t delivering what they promised. The craziest part is that I don’t think the people making the documentary even considered the implications of what they were showing here. When they showed the clips to the “gender expert” they brought in for commentary (a professor of gender at CUNY, who was a straight white guy), you can see the mental gymnastics unfolding behind his eyes. He had to quickly think of how he can discredit the “transness”’of these girls without admitting that ROGD is a real problem. Very bizarre stuff all around.
Uh, Dr. Adair is a trans man with a PHD. Look up his credentials. Pretty sure he's an authority on the subject.
Uh I’m aware he’s an “authority” on the subject, he just couldn’t square the fact that the way young women were being pressured to transition in this cult is basically identical to how it happens to many young women in recent years. These were text books cases of rapid onset gender dysphoria. Which unless he’s a complete outlier in his academic gender studies department, he would probably label as a transphobic myth.
Even though Netflix had to cover its a$$ with the disclaimer, I’m hoping that any cult awareness documentary will help the casual viewer see examples of Coercive Consent. This is not the consent culture that people assume is the liberated sex positive kind, and abusers have hidden behind for decades.
The stronger example from the culty group is the whistleblowers, the two women, one of whom was also pressured to transition and said NO. Even though both of their sources of income were from selling courses in the Twin Flames.
The biggest victim in the entire doc, in my opinion, was clearly the 18 year old girl who went to live with an insane person in Utah. I understand people get manipulated into things, but I found it hard to empathize with an older sister who was 100% on board with sending her younger sister across the country to live with a stranger who was 10 years older, and before she even moved out there was already in trouble with the police.
I don’t understand where the parents were! She said that she was living with them at the time of filming, so they’re obviously present in her life. How can they let their 18 year old daughter move out there? It was wild to me that a lot of these girls came from seemingly loving homes and still got sucked into this nonsense- virtually as well!
Sooooo many people get sucked into these groups. Especially those who think they know better! Sobering to think about.
I started watching this and couldn't stop! I was aware of this cult already as there's also a good podcast series on it. Eliza, you've perfectly articulated my discomfort with the documentary. Their defence of transgenderism and obvious surface level understanding of what is happening in online trans communities was so disappointing. Is Cassius Adair a female? She/he has that jockey voice so common to TIFs
More proof that this topic is in fact multifaceted in its breadth and reach, and we can't keep just having those sold on it be the ones telling the rest of society how to think and act in regard to it.
Twin Flames - well, there's another thing that went whoosh over my head. The world has, in fact, gone totally mad (but it probably always was). Isn't "authentic self" to mean something you're not just the deepest bit of doublethink in the trans wooniverse?