BBC violates trans taboo, talks to lesbians about sexual coercion
Trans activists rage against BBC article that reports on lesbians being pressured into sex with trans-identifying males
Trans activists can’t decide whether it’s an outrageous and transphobic lie to suggest that trans-identifying males ever pressure lesbians into sex or whether it would be totally fine if it were happening because ‘transwomen are women’ and therefore it’s transphobic for lesbians to rule trans-identifying males out of their sex lives.
Whether activists think it's a vicious lie about something that's not happening or something that is happening that's not a problem because ‘transwomen are women,’ they all seem to agree that lesbian women shouldn't talk about it and the BBC shouldn't report on it...
And what none of these activists can bring themselves to say is: If trans-identifying males were pressuring lesbians for sex, that would be an unacceptable violation of lesbians’ boundaries and that the trans community has a responsibility to condemn sexual coercion wherever it crops up. Which doesn’t seem like it should be so hard to say, does it? And if trans activists can’t make a simple statement of respect for the sexual boundaries that are definitional to same-sex attraction, that indicates there might be a problem after all… doesn’t it?
Trans activists talk out of both sides of their mouth on this issue: "You don't ever have to give a reason why you don't want to have sex with someone"—but if you do give a reason, it can't be "I'm same-sex attracted” or “I'm a lesbian."
Young lesbians are bombarded with suggestions like “There are PLENTY of other ways to have sex with someone who doesn’t have your ‘preferred’ genitals” and constant ‘reminders’ that “estrogenized dicks" are "a lot like if a vagina was shaped like a dick and testes.” Safe-sex guides for lesbians provide information on avoiding pregnancy and performing blowjobs.
Here’s what lesbian women told the BBC about their experiences of sexual coercion by trans-identifying males in the LGB+TQ community:
"I felt very bad for hating every moment, because the idea is we are attracted to gender rather than sex, and I did not feel that, and I felt bad for feeling like that," she said. Ashamed and embarrassed, she decided not to tell anyone. "The language at the time was very much 'trans women are women, they are always women, lesbians should date them'. And I was like, that's the reason I rejected this person. Does that make me bad? Am I not going to be allowed to be in the LGBT community anymore? Am I going to face repercussions for that instead?' So I didn't actually tell anyone." …
"I thought I would be called a transphobe or that it would be wrong of me to turn down a trans woman who wanted to exchange nude pictures," one wrote. "Young women feel pressured to sleep with trans women 'to prove I am not a terf'."
One woman reported being targeted in an online group. "I was told that homosexuality doesn't exist and I owed it to my trans sisters to unlearn my 'genital confusion' so I can enjoy letting them penetrate me," she wrote…
One compared going on dates with trans women to so-called conversion therapy - the controversial practice of trying to change someone's sexual orientation.
"I knew I wasn't attracted to them but internalised the idea that it was because of my 'transmisogyny' and that if I dated them for long enough I could start to be attracted to them. It was DIY conversion therapy," she wrote.
Another reported a trans woman physically forcing her to have sex after they went on a date.
"[They] threatened to out me as a terf and risk my job if I refused to sleep with [them]," she wrote. "I was too young to argue and had been brainwashed by queer theory so [they were] a 'woman' even if every fibre of my being was screaming throughout so I agreed to go home with [them]. [They] used physical force when I changed my mind upon seeing [their] penis and raped me."
If you haven’t been paying attention, if you’re not too open-minded to remember that we’ve seen straight males try to coerce lesbians into sex before—just with less lipstick and without the support of the LGB+TQ community itself!—it’s a stunning article and it raises uncomfortable questions about the central ideological commitment of the trans movement: transwomen are women. What does ‘transwomen are women’ mean for same-sex attracted women? These women tell us: relentless pressure, coercion, even sexual assault.
And all the trans community has to say is: Stop talking about it! Either it’s not happening, so shut up, or it is happening but only transphobes would object, so shut up.
Any lesbian who complains about sexual coercion by males who identify as lesbians is—under gender ideology—is a bad person who needs to educate herself, unlearn her ‘genital preferences,’ or be else quiet about her shameful hangups (her same-sex attraction). Or as newthoughtcrime wrote: “if you talk about being coerced, you're a terf - and therefore it's something only terfs talk about - and therefore if you talk about it, that makes you a terf…” And what does a good trans ally do with TERFs? Curb-stomp them, punch them, choke them, and never, ever listen to a word they say. Some activists conveniently redefine ‘lesbian’ as a bisexual person of either sex, then same-sex attracted women who won’t sleep with males aren’t lesbians anymore, therefore no lesbians are being coerced into sex.
This is what happens when you redefine the LGB community of same-sex attracted people (objective basis for membership) as the "queer" community (ideological basis for membership). Ideological noncompliance means you’re not queer, so you’re not part of the community anymore, so it’s not our problem. Stop talking about it.
Edited to add (October 27):
This was too grim for me to contemplate it but there's also this variation, courtesy of Finn Mackay, who I think once identified as a feminist:
So now we've got:
It's not happening, so don't talk about it.
It is happening but it's not a problem, so only bigots would complain about it, therefore if someone is complaining about it, they're a bigot and shouldn't be listened to.
It is a problem but don't talk about it.
It's beyond disturbing to watch the trans community put the full abuser playbook (I didn't do it and if I did she deserved it; don't listen to her, she's unreliable; the women who speak out about this are The Real Problem) into action in response to this BBC article, while putting on display all of the beliefs and group dynamics that would allow exactly this situation—males sexually coercing lesbians—to go unchecked:
Transwomen are women so it's not a problem,
If you speak out about this, you're a bigot and nobody should listen to you,
Transwomen are the most Vulnerable People on the Planet™ so even if there are rotten apples, don't talk about abuse you've suffered or you're literally killing transwomen.
Create an untouchable class—any untouchable class—and you'll attract abusers. This goes for priests and it goes for trans-identifying males, who are empowered by activists and allies to bend reality for everyone around them.
Where does that go?
I'm a woman because I say so.
I'm a lesbian because I say so.
You're a bigot because I say so.
That never happened because I say so.
Gender self-id is running a dangerous experiment by pushing the limits of men's say-so. Lesbians are paying the price for it.